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The article I’m responding to: www.malaysia-today.net/islam-bashing-is-actually-christianity-bashing/
The story of Sodom and Gomorrah is from Genesis 19. Here’s the link for those of you who want to read what the Bible says about it (see www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+19)
“Genesis tells us that God wanted to test the people of Lot’s community so He sent two angels disguised as very ‘jambu’ men to that community.”
Dear Raja Petra Kamaruddin (“RPK”), let me be the first to call your bluff. Nowhere in Genesis 19 does it state that the angels were disguised as ‘jambu’ men as you claim.
I’d suggest you re-read the passage of scripture or buy yourself a new pair of glasses. Genesis 19:4-5 says:
4 Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom—both young and old—surrounded the house.
5 They called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have
sex with them.”
So it is unquestionable that the male crowd at that time were homosexuals. It does not imply that the angels disguised as men were also homosexuals
“Lot and his family were spared because they were all righteous people.”
Again I call your bluff. Which verse in Genesis 19 supports your claim? When you quote from the Bible, do quote properly and not jump to your own rash conclusions
In Genesis 19:19, Lot says, “Your servant has found favor in your eyes, and you have shown great kindness to me in sparing my life…” Perhaps it is worth considering that Lot’s family benefited from his righteousness?
In the case of Noah, he “was a righteous man, blameless among the people of his time, and he walked with God” (Genesis 6:9). Then in Genesis 7:1, God says to Noah, “Go into the ark, you and your whole family, because I have found you righteous in this generation.”
Could it be that Lots family was spared because of his righteousness?
“After they had escaped, Lot’s two virgin daughters got him drunk and then had sex with him. Then they became
pregnant. But God did not destroy them because they were righteous although they had sex with their own father and got pregnant”
My previous argument applies to this point as well. Just because the Bible does not say God punished them right away does not mean He condones such actions. We cannot discard the fact that they (Lot’s daughters) may face eternal condemnation due to their sick actions
“Only if you have gay sex will God destroy you.”
Bold statement to make. Here again I call your bluff. You claim to have read the Bible but I am unsure as to how you missed out pertinent scriptures related to a similar subject
Genesis 6:11-13 tells us:
11 Now the earth was corrupt in God’s sight and was full of violence
12 God saw how corrupt the earth had become, for all the people on earth had corrupted their ways
13 So God said to Noah, “I am going to put an end to all people, for the earth is filled with violence because of them. I am surely going to destroy both them and the earth”
Did God send the flood to destroy mankind just because of homosexuality? Nope. God does not condone any form of sin. Looks like you have to be careful in future before using words like “only”
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 says:
9 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters, nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10 nor thieves nor drunkards nor slanderous nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God
Eternal damnation awaits those who are involved in the aforementioned things. But of course all hope is not lost. 1 Corinthians 6:11 tells us, “And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God”
It is not that God only hates homosexuality. He is against all forms of sin. He is merciful enough to give us a chance to repent and turn to Him before it is too late
* This article is based on the Bible and is what Christians believe. If your religion tells you differently, so be it. But this may give you an insight as to what the Christians believe and what their basis is
The Bible contains numerous verses which support the idea that Jesus is the Son of God. The following list is non-exhaustive
1. Matthew 16:15-17
15 “But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?”
16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”
17 Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven
My point (MP): Jesus did not deny it when Simon Peter said he is the Son of God. Jesus even acknowledged that God revealed it to Simon Peter
2. Mark 1:9-11
9 At that time Jesus came from Nazareth in Galilee and was
baptized by John in the Jordan.
10 Just as Jesus was coming up out of the water, he saw heaven being torn open and the Spirit descending on him like a dove.
11 And a voice came from heaven: “You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.”
MP: God the Father spoke from heaven announcing to the world that Jesus is His Son. This verse is also proof of the Trinity. Jesus (in the form of a man), The Holy Spirit (in the form of a dove), and God (in the form of a voice from heaven)
3. Luke 1:30-35
30 But the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary; you have found favor with God.
31 You will conceive and give birth to a son, and you are to call him Jesus.
32 He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David,
33 and he will reign over Jacob’s descendants forever; his kingdom will never end.”
34 “How will this be,” Mary asked the angel, “since I am a virgin?”
35 The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.
MP: The angel tells Mary that her child to be is the Son of God. So, Jesus = Son of God
4. John 3:16-18
16 God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son
MP: Jesus said those words. Hence he is admitting to being the Son of God. How do we know Jesus said those words? The words of Jesus in the Bible are printed in red. Now, who says Jesus never said he was the Son of God?
Now that we have established that the Bible speaks of Jesus as the Son of God, lets move on to the next area. Is Jesus God? Again Scriptures enlighten us
1. Isaiah 7:14
14 Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel
MP: Jesus fulfilled this prophecy (as mentioned above in Luke 1:30-35). Immanuel means “God with us.” You may be thinking, “Doesnt it seem a bit far-fetched that it means Jesus is God?” Well, It’s not the only verse that proves my point
2. John 1:1 & John 1:14
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God
14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only
Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
MP: John 1:1 tells us that the Word is God. John 1:14 then tells us that “The Word become flesh and made his dwelling among us.” Sounds familiar? Jesus came down to Earth, hence became flesh. So if Jesus is the Word, he must be God. Simply put, the Word = God = Jesus
3. John 14:10
10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work
MP: Jesus is in God the Father, and God the Father is in him. How’s that possible? It’s really not that hard to understand. Jesus = God
4. 2 Peter 1:1
1 Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have received a faith as precious as ours
MP: Note that Simon Peter (a disciple of Jesus) said that Jesus is our God and Savior. Yet again it shows that Jesus is God
In conclusion, Jesus is the Son of God and he is God (as evidenced by the aforementioned Scriptures). You may ask, “How is this possible?! How can Jesus be the Son of God and yet God at the same time?!”
An in depth study as to the doctrine of The Trinity (God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit) would answer that question. Click on the link and read my summarized version